1 00:00:14,749 --> 00:00:16,050 Oh, come in. 2 00:00:21,650 --> 00:00:24,590 Hi, it's lovely to meet you. Come on in. 3 00:00:25,790 --> 00:00:27,030 Lily? Yes. 4 00:00:27,430 --> 00:00:28,630 And Franco. 5 00:00:28,850 --> 00:00:30,370 Yes, correct. Nice to meet you. 6 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:33,350 Okay, wonderful. Please have a seat. 7 00:00:36,150 --> 00:00:40,790 Thank you so much for being here. My name is Dr. 8 00:00:41,050 --> 00:00:42,130 Penny Barber. 9 00:00:44,940 --> 00:00:49,960 I've been working in therapy for quite a while since I graduated. 10 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:56,860 I started off in family therapy, and then maybe like six months ago, 11 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,340 I switched to human sexuality. 12 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,780 I feel like it's a much better fit for me personally. I just love helping 13 00:01:03,780 --> 00:01:04,780 in that way. 14 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:12,100 What? Are you okay? I thought we were here because... 15 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,620 of grief therapy and because of you mourning your father. 16 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,140 Yes, that is what I had to tell her in order to drag her here today with me. I 17 00:01:22,140 --> 00:01:23,940 had to tell the white lie, you know. 18 00:01:24,460 --> 00:01:25,460 Oh. 19 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:27,240 Cat's out of the bag now. 20 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Okay. Yeah. I'm just not sure how you can help. 21 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Okay. Well, that is a first for me. 22 00:01:38,740 --> 00:01:40,840 You know what? Since we have the session book. 23 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:45,440 I did have a background in family therapy before I started this. 24 00:01:45,940 --> 00:01:52,000 Would you care to stay? Maybe we could talk about that and the disparity and 25 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,000 you both think you're here. 26 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Yes, that's fine. 27 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,820 Yes, I'm willing to stay and talk. All right. 28 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,740 In that case, well, Lily, let's start with you. Could you tell me a little bit 29 00:02:05,740 --> 00:02:06,740 about yourself? 30 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Well, I'm just a stay -at -home mom. 31 00:02:11,370 --> 00:02:14,230 Father did die about 18 months ago. 32 00:02:14,650 --> 00:02:21,490 Okay. I'm sorry to hear that. And so I've just been 33 00:02:21,490 --> 00:02:23,710 taking care of him and everything. 34 00:02:24,010 --> 00:02:26,870 I go to church every weekend. 35 00:02:28,230 --> 00:02:31,570 But there's not much to say. 36 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:35,030 How do you use anything? 37 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:38,610 Gardening? Yeah. 38 00:02:40,540 --> 00:02:44,860 I like to go hiking and stuff like that, and I do, like, a little gardening and 39 00:02:44,860 --> 00:02:47,880 stuff like that, but, you know. 40 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:50,800 But that's your focus on the home right now? Yes, yes. 41 00:02:51,180 --> 00:02:52,320 Okay, I see that. 42 00:02:52,980 --> 00:02:56,260 That sounds lovely. And, Franco, could you tell me a little bit about yourself? 43 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,660 Well, like she said, she's my stepmom, wife of my father who had just passed, 44 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,380 and, yeah, it's just us two now. 45 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,000 I don't do much, really. I just go to school, hang out with my friends, you 46 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,040 know, that normal type stuff, I guess. 47 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,960 All right. All right. 48 00:03:14,940 --> 00:03:15,940 Well, 49 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:22,740 Lily, why were you told that you were here today? Well, because I 50 00:03:22,740 --> 00:03:26,920 know he's still having trouble getting over his father dying and everything. 51 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,320 So I thought he wanted to come and, you know. 52 00:03:31,660 --> 00:03:35,480 big thing going on about that, and I thought that would be very helpful, you 53 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,760 know, for a call to talk about that. 54 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Were there any specific things that you thought that, of course, you wanted to 55 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,280 mourn your father. 56 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,960 Were there any particular behaviors that you were concerned about, or does he 57 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,340 seem like a red flag to you? 58 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,280 No, I mean, he just seems, you know, sad. 59 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,940 Yeah. Okay. 60 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,880 All right. 61 00:03:56,140 --> 00:03:59,660 And Franco, why don't you tell me... 62 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:03,520 Why you asked your mom to come here today? 63 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:11,120 Well, ever since my father passed, I've noticed more than once, a 64 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:16,339 few times at this point, that usually not in character for her to do, I've 65 00:04:16,339 --> 00:04:19,620 caught her staring at me in the shower a few times. 66 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:21,079 Oh. 67 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,960 And I've been a weird one to confront her about it, and I thought bringing her 68 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,600 here will probably be a good way of addressing that. 69 00:04:30,060 --> 00:04:31,060 Okay. 70 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:39,720 So maybe there was an incident earlier where you were having a look at Franco's 71 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,600 shower. Is that true? 72 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,420 Well, you know, it happened one time. 73 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:53,540 I, you know, was walking by and I noticed the bathroom door 74 00:04:53,540 --> 00:04:55,280 was open. He was in the shower. 75 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,700 I kind of happened to look. 76 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:05,700 But, you know, nothing happened. It was just, it just 77 00:05:05,700 --> 00:05:11,740 happened. And I confessed and asked the Lord for forgiveness when I was in 78 00:05:11,740 --> 00:05:15,520 church. And so, I mean, I'm totally fine. 79 00:05:15,740 --> 00:05:19,480 I didn't see the harm in it. 80 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:20,860 I confessed. 81 00:05:21,420 --> 00:05:25,040 She may have asked the Lord for forgiveness, but she never once spoke to 82 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,200 about it. You know, she knew I had caught her doing it. 83 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:35,580 Alright, what was that like? Like, what happened when you got 84 00:05:35,580 --> 00:05:36,580 caught, Lily? 85 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:42,460 What would you say, what was that experience like? Yeah, I felt really bad 86 00:05:42,460 --> 00:05:45,980 it, you know. I knew I should not have been doing that. 87 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:51,600 Okay. So, I just, I felt really bad about it, so. 88 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,000 And Franka says you didn't talk to him about that. Yeah, I'm embarrassed. 89 00:05:56,840 --> 00:05:59,260 Really? About even bringing it up? 90 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,540 Okay, but Franco, you would have liked to address it? Yes, absolutely. 91 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:10,340 And I was embarrassed myself. That's why I couldn't do it myself and why I 92 00:06:10,340 --> 00:06:15,480 decided to bring her here and trick her because I didn't want to openly admit as 93 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,480 to why. 94 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Is there anything? 95 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:23,460 It seems like we had a little bit of a disparity in that Lily says this 96 00:06:23,460 --> 00:06:25,880 once and Franco, you said this happened. 97 00:06:26,570 --> 00:06:27,610 Yeah. A few times. 98 00:06:27,930 --> 00:06:30,210 Maybe one time I let the door crack. 99 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:34,530 Definitely a couple other times, like, she had to open the door. I had to lock 100 00:06:34,530 --> 00:06:38,310 in it, but she had to open the door. So, I guess I can take a little bit of the 101 00:06:38,310 --> 00:06:44,130 blame for that, but... Is this a recurring issue, Lily? 102 00:06:44,490 --> 00:06:50,570 Oh, you know, uh... I just maybe 103 00:06:50,570 --> 00:06:53,430 peaked a little bit, but, you know, I... 104 00:06:53,660 --> 00:06:56,500 I didn't mean anything by it. 105 00:06:56,860 --> 00:07:00,340 I didn't mean anything by it. Okay. 106 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,760 Did that seem like a genuine thought when you heard that, in your opinion, 107 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:06,760 expert opinion? 108 00:07:06,780 --> 00:07:08,520 Well, you know, maybe. 109 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:16,120 Let's talk more about the underlying issues of why this might have happened 110 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,880 in the first place. 111 00:07:20,810 --> 00:07:25,850 Lily, have you been able to meet your sexual need since the death of your 112 00:07:25,850 --> 00:07:26,850 husband? 113 00:07:28,130 --> 00:07:29,590 Honestly, no. 114 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:31,910 No, I haven't. 115 00:07:32,830 --> 00:07:35,350 Have you explored any masturbation? 116 00:07:36,550 --> 00:07:41,910 Well, you know, I feel that's so private and everything. 117 00:07:42,910 --> 00:07:47,430 You know, I just feel very uncomfortable talking about that. 118 00:07:48,810 --> 00:07:49,810 Okay. 119 00:07:51,130 --> 00:07:56,250 I mean, I am a professional, and, you know, clearly your son is concerned 120 00:07:56,250 --> 00:07:58,850 you. I can leave the room if it makes him more comfortable. 121 00:08:00,370 --> 00:08:01,370 Oh. 122 00:08:02,610 --> 00:08:04,170 You don't have to do that. 123 00:08:05,530 --> 00:08:11,830 I just, you know, I just, do you often have trouble discussing sexual matters 124 00:08:11,830 --> 00:08:12,870 home? Yes. 125 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:17,230 We don't talk about that at all, no. At all? No. Okay. 126 00:08:19,099 --> 00:08:24,720 Even after the passing of your father, if you have questions, you don't have a 127 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,720 source of information? 128 00:08:26,380 --> 00:08:29,680 No, I just keep to myself, yeah. 129 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:37,159 Okay. All right. And can you tell me why that is? 130 00:08:37,340 --> 00:08:44,240 What's the barrier here around discussing sexuality issues at home? 131 00:08:45,180 --> 00:08:48,020 I just feel so uncomfortable. 132 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:55,000 Is there a place that discomfort is coming from? Is there something that you 133 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:01,880 would... Being a good church 134 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,620 -going woman, I just don't feel like that I should be discussing those 135 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:13,960 Do you feel like your religion is precluding you from a 136 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,520 frank discussion of erotic and sexual matters? 137 00:09:17,780 --> 00:09:18,780 Yes. 138 00:09:20,739 --> 00:09:27,300 Okay. Well, you know, I do regularly counsel Christians, 139 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:34,160 you know, Christian families and Christian people about, you know, their 140 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,360 personal matters. And, you know, I'm sure that if you do read in the Bible, 141 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:40,580 everyone likes to quote song to song. 142 00:09:41,860 --> 00:09:45,040 You know, there certainly is a time and a place, and there are certain... 143 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:51,100 stories that are expected to go a certain way. And, you know, I feel like 144 00:09:51,100 --> 00:09:55,380 is room for human sexuality within the Bible. You know, there's certainly a lot 145 00:09:55,380 --> 00:09:56,460 of rules governing it. 146 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:03,500 And so I do feel 147 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:09,020 like I understand where those barriers come from. I really do. You know, and 148 00:10:09,020 --> 00:10:11,160 where they're perceived and everything like that. 149 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:14,720 I do have some information on a... 150 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:19,900 Christian human sexuality group therapy that, you know, I might like to give you 151 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:22,100 at the end of our meeting today. 152 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:29,480 But until then, I would like to try 153 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:30,480 a few things. 154 00:10:30,660 --> 00:10:31,660 Okay. Is that okay? 155 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,020 Mm -hmm. All right. 156 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:40,460 So when I was getting my certification and earning my diploma, 157 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,600 we did spend some time with hypnotherapy. 158 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:48,980 Which isn't a focus. 159 00:10:50,340 --> 00:10:53,160 I haven't done much of it since school. 160 00:10:54,020 --> 00:11:00,840 But I feel like in this very specific situation, it might really help you to 161 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,520 feel more open discussing these things. And you might get more out of the 162 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,060 session. It might be really freeing for you. 163 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,700 Hypnotherapy, like stuff you see in movies and stuff. 164 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,160 I would not say that the depictions of hypnotherapy I've seen in movies have 165 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,160 been accurate. 166 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,120 But, yeah, you know, kind of, you know, sure. 167 00:11:23,380 --> 00:11:27,140 I mean, I'm sure if you were to sit in on our session, you know, and I started 168 00:11:27,140 --> 00:11:29,600 doing it, you would recognize it. I would love to watch it. 169 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,080 Are you curious? 170 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,940 Well, the induction part of it is all pretty simple. 171 00:11:36,540 --> 00:11:40,420 What I would do would be that I would sort of... 172 00:11:41,380 --> 00:11:46,800 Get your attention and then sort of break down these barriers that you're 173 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,760 and talking about these things, not so that you can do anything that you don't 174 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,300 already want to do. You can't, like in films, hypnotize someone to do something 175 00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:54,460 they don't want to do already. 176 00:11:56,140 --> 00:12:02,820 But you can sort of help them become more their true self, like put them in a 177 00:12:02,820 --> 00:12:04,960 state of suggestibility to themselves. 178 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,280 Okay. Which I think is the big difference between what you see. 179 00:12:08,750 --> 00:12:11,830 In films and stuff, it's like, you know, I probably couldn't make you, like, rob 180 00:12:11,830 --> 00:12:12,549 a bank. 181 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:15,150 Right. Probably not going to work. 182 00:12:16,130 --> 00:12:21,190 But, you know, I've in the past seen other therapists use it to, you know, 183 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:25,790 help a father tell his daughter that he really does love her despite, you know, 184 00:12:25,790 --> 00:12:28,930 something horrible that she's done that he might not approve of or, you know, 185 00:12:28,950 --> 00:12:32,190 something like that. It's actually quite helpful to get people to stop smoking, 186 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:37,190 you know, things that they do want to do anyway. But sometimes you just need to. 187 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:40,080 reframe someone's thinking a little bit. 188 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,220 Okay. I'm willing to try. This will help. 189 00:12:43,540 --> 00:12:47,320 Yeah. If you're open to it, I would like to give it a shot. Okay. 190 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,240 All right. 191 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:50,700 Well, wonderful. 192 00:12:51,620 --> 00:12:56,000 Franco, I am going to ask you to bear with us. All right. Do your thing. 193 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,500 More focus on your mom a little bit right now. 194 00:13:00,140 --> 00:13:04,100 So all hypnosis is really self -hypnosis. 195 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,460 And it's a state that you've probably experienced before, whether you've 196 00:13:08,460 --> 00:13:12,020 experienced something called highway hypnosis, where, let's say, you're 197 00:13:12,020 --> 00:13:17,580 from one familiar place, work, driving to another familiar place, home, and you 198 00:13:17,580 --> 00:13:18,940 just kind of do it on autopilot. 199 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,520 Another example of a hypnosis that is commonly experienced by people is, say, 200 00:13:23,540 --> 00:13:28,000 watching a movie. You know, you're focused on it. You can enter a movie 201 00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:31,560 and you can sit down in the dark, be completely focused on the film, and not 202 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:33,440 even notice who is sitting right behind you. 203 00:13:34,060 --> 00:13:36,100 All of your attention is focused on the screen. 204 00:13:36,580 --> 00:13:39,820 So the first thing that I like to do is to get your attention. 205 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:48,120 And to do that, I actually think I would like to use a necklace. 206 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,900 I wasn't really prepared for hypnotherapy session today, so I don't 207 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:52,900 anything else. 208 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:59,390 Okay. But if I could just have you really focus right here on this jewel 209 00:13:59,390 --> 00:14:03,030 here. And I'm not going to swing it back and forth. I'm just going to let it 210 00:14:03,030 --> 00:14:06,570 dangle right here. And I want you to focus on your attention right there. 211 00:14:06,810 --> 00:14:10,410 As you're doing it, I want you to start paying attention to your breath. Your 212 00:14:10,410 --> 00:14:12,770 mind can hold up to six thoughts at once. 213 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:17,130 And one of them is going to be taken up by this pendant right here. And one of 214 00:14:17,130 --> 00:14:21,510 them is going to be taken up by your breath. Just focus on breathing in and 215 00:14:21,650 --> 00:14:23,230 And let your body relax. 216 00:14:23,850 --> 00:14:27,710 You can move. You don't have to stay totally still when you're being 217 00:14:27,990 --> 00:14:31,210 It's just like watching a movie. It's just like watching television. You can 218 00:14:31,210 --> 00:14:34,670 feel yourself get comfortable. If you have an itch, you can totally scratch 219 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:38,290 If you want to take a deep breath or a breath or something anyway, you can do 220 00:14:38,290 --> 00:14:41,470 that. You can take off your shoes. You could probably get fully undressed, and 221 00:14:41,470 --> 00:14:47,670 it wouldn't matter. All you have to do is look at the jaw and look upon your 222 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:48,670 breath. 223 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:52,470 All you have to do is focus right there. 224 00:14:53,370 --> 00:14:55,810 Do your best to focus right there and get comfortable. 225 00:14:57,130 --> 00:15:03,770 Your body can move automatically and easily, and it won't distract you at 226 00:15:03,850 --> 00:15:09,430 Anything else that you might hear, sounds of cars outside, your breathing, 227 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:14,590 breathing, your son's breathing, the temperature in the room, everything is 228 00:15:14,590 --> 00:15:16,930 going to serve to augment this moment. 229 00:15:20,110 --> 00:15:23,750 and serve to augment your focus on the stool. 230 00:15:28,030 --> 00:15:34,510 As you focus on the stool, I want you, in your mind, on your own, I want you to 231 00:15:34,510 --> 00:15:39,150 start counting backwards from 10 down to zero. 232 00:15:39,610 --> 00:15:45,310 When you get to zero, I want your eyes to close, and I want you to sink into a 233 00:15:45,310 --> 00:15:47,370 deep hypnotic. 234 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,420 Focus on the jaw. 235 00:15:52,220 --> 00:15:53,220 Working down. 236 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,260 All the way in your head. 237 00:15:55,620 --> 00:15:56,620 Good. 238 00:15:57,060 --> 00:15:59,600 Excellent. What did you do? 239 00:15:59,980 --> 00:16:00,980 Oh, my God. 240 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,080 All right. 241 00:16:03,660 --> 00:16:08,080 Really ease yourself in a relaxed state. 242 00:16:09,860 --> 00:16:13,720 I want you to feel all of your muscles becoming completely relaxed. 243 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,280 And again, you can move as you need to. 244 00:16:17,020 --> 00:16:21,490 Anything natural that you need to do in your body is complete. Completely limp 245 00:16:21,490 --> 00:16:26,170 and comfortable as though it is filled with warm liquid. 246 00:16:27,810 --> 00:16:29,770 Completely relaxed. 247 00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:33,410 Completely limp. 248 00:16:33,750 --> 00:16:34,750 Excellent. 249 00:16:35,610 --> 00:16:40,350 Now I want you to feel a state of relaxation and acceptance take over your 250 00:16:40,350 --> 00:16:41,430 entire body. 251 00:16:42,140 --> 00:16:46,640 As soon as you know that you are completely focused and that you are 252 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,460 susceptible to suggestions from your own subconscious mind, I want you to say, 253 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,520 I'm convinced. 254 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,300 I'm convinced. 255 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,420 Excellent. That was so easy. 256 00:16:58,780 --> 00:17:01,480 That was the easiest thing in the world, just focusing. 257 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:08,140 Now, really, you are a sexual being. 258 00:17:08,859 --> 00:17:10,240 And that's okay. 259 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,780 You have sexual need, and that's completely natural. 260 00:17:18,140 --> 00:17:22,720 Lord God created you as a thankful creature, and he would not have given 261 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,079 these wonderful, beautiful feelings if you were not meant to explore them. 262 00:17:28,740 --> 00:17:33,460 I don't want you to ever question anything that occurs to you naturally. I 263 00:17:33,460 --> 00:17:38,500 you to feel completely at ease with yourself as a sexual woman and a sexual 264 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:39,500 creature. 265 00:17:40,090 --> 00:17:45,590 I want you to feel open about expressing that sexuality and comfortable 266 00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:47,010 expressing that sexuality. 267 00:17:47,670 --> 00:17:52,610 As you feel comfortable and relaxed right now, that's how I want you to feel 268 00:17:52,610 --> 00:17:56,710 when you are expressing sex and sexual. 269 00:17:57,150 --> 00:18:01,090 I want you to remember the state that you're in right now, where you are 270 00:18:01,090 --> 00:18:06,490 and open, and I want you to be able to return to it at the snap of my fingers. 271 00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:10,670 I want you to know that this office is a safe place. 272 00:18:11,070 --> 00:18:15,790 You can discuss anything here within these four white walls. 273 00:18:16,290 --> 00:18:20,310 It is a safe space where you can explore your thoughts, your feelings, your 274 00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:25,630 sexuality. And it's completely non -judgmental. And it's completely 275 00:18:25,930 --> 00:18:29,230 And it's going to feel good to do so. 276 00:18:29,450 --> 00:18:32,530 It's going to feel good to explore your sexuality. 277 00:18:33,660 --> 00:18:37,920 I'm going to keep talking to you. Once you understand that it is completely 278 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,940 for you to explore your sexuality, and that the snapping of my fingers gives 279 00:18:42,940 --> 00:18:46,060 permission to do so, I want you to say, I'm convinced. 280 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:49,140 It's okay for you to explore your sexuality. 281 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,940 It's okay for you to explore your sexuality. I'm convinced. 282 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,500 Good girl. That's a wonderful memory. 283 00:18:55,780 --> 00:18:59,960 It's going to feel so good to explore your sexuality here in this office. 284 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,820 Now I am going to count back up from 0 to 10, and when I get to 10, I am going 285 00:19:05,820 --> 00:19:09,840 to snap my fingers. You are going to be fully awake, and you are going to feel 286 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:16,300 focused and refreshed and eager to have an open conversation with me about sex. 287 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:23,240 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 288 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:29,160 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. 289 00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:32,560 Good. Hi. 290 00:19:32,820 --> 00:19:33,820 How are you feeling? 291 00:19:34,220 --> 00:19:35,039 I'm good. 292 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,040 You feeling okay? 293 00:19:36,380 --> 00:19:38,460 Yes. All right. Good. 294 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:39,840 That's wonderful. 295 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,300 Okay. Let's continue our session. 296 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,960 I'm so glad that you were willing to do that. 297 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:50,360 Yeah. 298 00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:51,460 I'm feeling great. 299 00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:52,700 Oh, yeah? 300 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,040 You feeling relaxed? 301 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,320 Yeah. Okay. 302 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,080 All right. Awesome. 303 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,720 So, I thought we could revisit a few topics that we had discussed. 304 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,260 Alright, yeah, let's go for it. 305 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:15,400 So, Franco, can you tell me, in 306 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:21,680 plain English, without censoring yourself at all, what you think, 307 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:28,400 if anything, what you think your mom needs to be happy? 308 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:36,420 After what I just saw, um, in plain English, I said, uh, she needs to be, 309 00:20:36,460 --> 00:20:41,980 she needs to be fucked. She needs to be pleasured. Um, obviously that's been, 310 00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:46,100 uh, gone since my dad's passing. And that's exactly. 311 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,740 Okay. I think. 312 00:20:49,060 --> 00:20:52,900 Uh, Lily, how do you feel about that very honest statement? 313 00:20:55,180 --> 00:20:56,960 Well, I agree. 314 00:20:57,220 --> 00:20:58,520 It's been a long time. 315 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,880 Yeah. Would you say that's something that's been missing from your life? 316 00:21:02,180 --> 00:21:03,700 Yes, I would say so. 317 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:05,100 Okay. 318 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,880 Can I ask you, have what, if anything, have you been doing to take care of your 319 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,880 own sexual need? 320 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,920 No, I haven't been. 321 00:21:14,300 --> 00:21:18,340 Because I feel like, you know, I shouldn't be doing that. 322 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,580 I'm afraid it's a sin. 323 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,200 Okay. 324 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:28,380 You know, there... Like so many things in the Bible, there are different 325 00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:30,680 interpretations of it. 326 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:37,000 But I do have to ask you, whom do you think it's hurting for you to feel 327 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,100 pleasure? 328 00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:42,620 I mean, 329 00:21:44,060 --> 00:21:47,980 really no one, I guess. But I just feel like it's not the right thing to do. 330 00:21:49,060 --> 00:21:53,760 There's still that restraint there, even though. But let's agree on that. Let's 331 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,760 say... 332 00:21:55,010 --> 00:22:00,570 that we can say that it is not hurting anybody if Lily were to masturbate. 333 00:22:00,770 --> 00:22:03,510 That's probably an accurate statement, right? Okay. 334 00:22:03,770 --> 00:22:05,750 It's probably not going to burn down a hospital. Right. 335 00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:07,390 Most likely. Right. 336 00:22:09,490 --> 00:22:13,070 How much should she be masturbating, in your professional opinion? 337 00:22:13,630 --> 00:22:15,970 Well, you know, as much as she wants to. 338 00:22:16,650 --> 00:22:19,870 You know, and that varies for people. There's, you know, different statistics 339 00:22:19,870 --> 00:22:23,750 that come out every few years. Somebody does a survey where they're like, oh, 340 00:22:23,870 --> 00:22:29,150 how much do people, and the only consistency we find is generally that 341 00:22:29,150 --> 00:22:30,790 do it a little bit less than men. 342 00:22:30,990 --> 00:22:32,530 But not as much as you would think. 343 00:22:33,170 --> 00:22:36,230 Or at least not as much as I would have thought in my 20s. 344 00:22:37,810 --> 00:22:40,270 But okay, so you haven't really been masturbating. 345 00:22:40,550 --> 00:22:44,290 When is the last time that you had an orgasm? 346 00:22:47,660 --> 00:22:50,460 Probably way before his father. 347 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,460 Oh, and you said that was... 18 months ago. 348 00:22:54,820 --> 00:22:56,660 18 months ago that he passed away. 349 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,240 So that's a while. 350 00:22:58,500 --> 00:22:59,500 Yeah. 351 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:05,240 What is the longest in your adult life that you have gone without climaxing? 352 00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:11,040 Probably six months. 353 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:19,280 Okay, so the 18 months since you died is the longest stretch, but a previous six 354 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,540 -month period, that's kind of a lot. You know, that seems like a lot to me. 355 00:23:25,940 --> 00:23:26,940 All right. 356 00:23:28,460 --> 00:23:30,540 Okay, let's try something else. 357 00:23:32,780 --> 00:23:37,460 Thank you very much, by the way, for sharing this information with me. I know 358 00:23:37,460 --> 00:23:40,440 that it can be difficult to do that, but I do want it to start to feel really 359 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,500 good for you to share. 360 00:23:42,699 --> 00:23:46,620 Franco, let's have you stand here, and Lily, let's have you stand right there. 361 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:48,100 Okay. 362 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,480 Okay. 363 00:23:50,980 --> 00:23:55,720 So, Lily, I want you to take a deep look. May I touch you, Franco? 364 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,280 Yes. 365 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,720 Take a deep look into your son's eyes. 366 00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:09,540 I want you both to sort of, like, start breathing deeply into something that can 367 00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:10,540 really... 368 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:13,720 make a connection between people is when they kind of think up their breath. 369 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,020 Okay. So what I would like you to do is I would like to take your hand, Franco, 370 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,880 and can I put this hand on your chest right here? Okay. 371 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,740 Right there, and same thing. Can I put your hand right here on his chest? 372 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:27,000 Okay. And I want you to just keep breathing deeply, and I want you looking 373 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,180 each other's eyes, and I want you to think up as much as you can. 374 00:24:32,940 --> 00:24:39,360 So, Lily, there have been some instances with you peeping on Franco. 375 00:24:40,639 --> 00:24:42,820 Thanks, Franco. How did that make you feel? 376 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:45,820 Was it a bad feeling? 377 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,880 No, I wouldn't say it was a bad feeling. 378 00:24:49,740 --> 00:24:55,100 I would say the feeling, I don't know how quite to explain. 379 00:24:55,780 --> 00:24:57,080 Not good, not bad. 380 00:24:59,340 --> 00:25:01,260 Not a good feeling, not a bad feeling. 381 00:25:01,460 --> 00:25:05,740 Yeah. That's okay. You know, it's okay if you can't be back lately or you're 382 00:25:05,740 --> 00:25:09,080 thinking, so long as you're being open, I would say it's more important to be 383 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,000 open. Oh, yeah, like, if I wasn't trying to be open, I would say it was bad 384 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,220 right away, but her being my stepmom and everything, like, yeah, I was like, 385 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:23,180 this should feel bad, but that's where the confusion comes in, like, oh, why 386 00:25:23,180 --> 00:25:27,300 don't I feel bad about it? Okay. I find it intriguing. 387 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,920 Okay. A way to put it. 388 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:33,500 That's a great way to put it. That's really beautiful. 389 00:25:33,780 --> 00:25:36,640 Do you want me to thank yourself for sharing with you like that? Yeah. 390 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,380 That was really wonderful. Thank you. 391 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:46,320 And Lily, can you please tell me how it felt to 392 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,280 see Franco naked? 393 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,500 Well, at first it was a little strange. 394 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:01,220 Okay. But then I, I don't know, I just actually kind of 395 00:26:01,220 --> 00:26:04,820 turned on by it. Okay. 396 00:26:06,670 --> 00:26:09,250 All right. How does that feel to talk about that right now? 397 00:26:10,450 --> 00:26:15,670 It's a little difficult, but I feel like I can and that I'm ready to talk about 398 00:26:15,670 --> 00:26:17,670 it. You're feeling a little more open? 399 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:18,990 Yes. 400 00:26:19,610 --> 00:26:23,570 Yeah, he tends to remind me of his father. 401 00:26:24,370 --> 00:26:25,370 Okay. 402 00:26:25,970 --> 00:26:32,270 I can see that. I can see you feeling those kind of feelings and rejecting a 403 00:26:32,270 --> 00:26:33,270 little bit. 404 00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:34,330 Completely normal. 405 00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:38,230 It's not something we talk about very much, but it's very common. 406 00:26:41,370 --> 00:26:48,350 Franco, you said that it would help your mom if she were to have 407 00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:49,350 sex. 408 00:26:49,770 --> 00:26:50,770 Yes. Right? 409 00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:55,830 Okay. Do you feel like that's something that she needs? How do you feel like her 410 00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:58,410 behavior would change if she was having sex? 411 00:27:00,130 --> 00:27:03,030 Would she be... Probably more... 412 00:27:03,630 --> 00:27:07,930 And better moods and more open, like she is now. 413 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:10,510 Happier and more open, more relaxed, maybe? 414 00:27:10,770 --> 00:27:12,110 Yes. Would that be accurate? Okay. 415 00:27:13,710 --> 00:27:17,330 All right, and that sounds good to you, to have a mom around the house who is 416 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:21,530 happy and relaxed and more open. 417 00:27:21,790 --> 00:27:22,870 That sounds better? 418 00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:24,450 Yes. Okay. 419 00:27:25,670 --> 00:27:32,530 And you both said that it didn't feel bad when Lily 420 00:27:32,530 --> 00:27:37,020 was... Taking a peek, as it were, meaning a little bit of a voyeur. 421 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,280 But it was a negative experience. 422 00:27:42,340 --> 00:27:49,340 So I can understand how there would be a lot of outside influence for telling 423 00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:50,600 me that it's a negative experience. 424 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:57,100 But if you're not feeling it that way, then I personally don't think that 425 00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:01,460 there's a lot to be gained from wallowing in those negative feelings, 426 00:28:02,860 --> 00:28:07,180 So, Franco, I was wondering if you would be willing to do something for me right 427 00:28:07,180 --> 00:28:08,900 now. And what is that? 428 00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:15,140 Well, I was wondering if you would maybe be willing to let your mom sort of 429 00:28:15,140 --> 00:28:19,860 explore you more fully here right now. 430 00:28:21,580 --> 00:28:25,180 And what do you mean by explore? Like, you want me to take my clothes off right 431 00:28:25,180 --> 00:28:29,540 now? Very specifically, yes. I was going to start by asking you to take your 432 00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:31,120 clothes off. That was going to be my step one. 433 00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:32,380 All right. 434 00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:40,220 And I know it can feel a little strange, but I do think it can be very helpful. 435 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:44,860 Well, I've seen what you've done so far, and you work your magic, so... Okay, 436 00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:45,860 thank you. 437 00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:51,380 Whatever you say, yeah, I'm in. Willing to take a risk? Yes. 438 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,600 Willing to play the game? Okay, thank you. 439 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,740 I appreciate your confidence in my ability. 440 00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:01,160 Lily, would that be okay? Are you interested? 441 00:29:05,399 --> 00:29:11,540 It definitely feels strange, but I guess if you think it will help. 442 00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:15,260 I do think that it will help, and strange doesn't have to feel bad. So, of 443 00:29:15,260 --> 00:29:17,520 course, if it does feel bad, you can say so. 444 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,200 And if it feels strange, you can certainly say so. 445 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,140 It's just all about communication. 446 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,120 Okay? 447 00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:29,270 Why don't you, Lily, tell Franco exactly what you want him to do? I want you to 448 00:29:29,270 --> 00:29:33,090 take your shirt off. I want you to take your shoes off. I want you to let me 449 00:29:33,090 --> 00:29:35,390 touch your chest. You know, anything like that. 450 00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:38,050 Okay. Can you take that power? 451 00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:40,150 Sure. 452 00:29:40,290 --> 00:29:41,290 Okay, 453 00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:44,030 Franco. I want you to take your shirt off. 454 00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:46,870 Okay. 455 00:30:02,649 --> 00:30:05,390 And it's all on your camera right here? 456 00:30:05,650 --> 00:30:08,470 Oh, yeah. I just use it to take notes in my sessions. 457 00:30:09,450 --> 00:30:11,550 So it's okay for it to stay on? 458 00:30:11,950 --> 00:30:17,010 Oh, yeah. I mean, like, it'll be in my files for me, you know. 459 00:30:17,790 --> 00:30:21,910 No one else will see it. No, I don't generally allow people into my medical 460 00:30:21,910 --> 00:30:23,130 files. Okay. 461 00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:25,090 Oh, very private. Making sure. 462 00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:26,350 Mm -hmm. 463 00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:32,040 How long since you've been touched? 464 00:31:33,180 --> 00:31:34,660 That's been a long time too. 465 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,840 You having a thought there, Franco? 466 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,660 Whatever the doctor suggests. 467 00:31:51,020 --> 00:31:56,780 I always suggest open and honest communication and clear expression of 468 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,380 Seeing as she's seen me naked before, I think she should return the favor. 469 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,920 Good for her. 470 00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:08,220 Okay. 471 00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:25,340 That's some very beautiful lingerie for no one to see it. 472 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Why, thank you. 473 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,840 May I? 474 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,920 Sure. 475 00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:39,340 It's always good to ask. You never know. The answer might be yes. 476 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:41,560 The answer's no. That's okay, too. 477 00:32:51,340 --> 00:32:55,240 Are you okay for you to explore each other as long as you feel you're 478 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,240 it? 479 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,640 Without having to worry about any judgment coming from anywhere else? 480 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:11,660 Don't want all of these repressions to build up into resentments or 481 00:33:11,660 --> 00:33:12,880 neuroses. 482 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,040 Kind of get it all out. 483 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,080 Thank you. 484 00:33:44,670 --> 00:33:46,930 You're being so affectionate, Lily. 485 00:33:47,730 --> 00:33:50,350 I love it. I love seeing you enjoy yourself. 486 00:33:56,940 --> 00:34:01,460 I'm so nervous when you first got here. I know. I feel so much better now. 487 00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:04,220 Mm -hmm. 488 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:21,219 To your communicating, just kind of about words, just physically enjoying 489 00:34:21,219 --> 00:34:23,760 yourself, connecting. 490 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,600 It's definitely been a long time. 491 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,520 But I'm glad we're able to do that. 492 00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:49,659 Did you want to take these off? 493 00:34:56,260 --> 00:34:58,660 Look at what a big step you've made, Lily. 494 00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:59,859 I know. 495 00:34:59,860 --> 00:35:02,980 I feel like I've come a long way already. 496 00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:06,130 Completely naked. 497 00:35:06,530 --> 00:35:08,030 You seem very relaxed. 498 00:35:08,970 --> 00:35:10,230 Very calm. 499 00:35:10,810 --> 00:35:12,970 I think you really helped me. 500 00:35:13,890 --> 00:35:15,810 I try. 501 00:35:19,410 --> 00:35:22,190 I feel definitely more relaxed now. 502 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,500 exploring each other so openly. 503 00:35:30,820 --> 00:35:33,760 Do you mind if I kind of come in there and kind of like facilitate a little 504 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,500 Sure. Come on. 505 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,118 That's good. 506 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,420 I like to see more touching. 507 00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:47,640 Eye contact is always nice. 508 00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:49,620 That's good. 509 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,960 That's right. 510 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,320 Kissing, exploring. 511 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,360 Wonderful. 512 00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:05,460 Vocalizing. 513 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,780 Leaning feeling. 514 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,100 And Franco, can you tell your mother how beautiful she is? 515 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,440 This is okay. 516 00:36:20,060 --> 00:36:21,060 She's gorgeous. 517 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,300 And this is exactly what she needs. 518 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,600 Large breath. 519 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,700 And this tiny little wave, which is very full hip. 520 00:36:37,420 --> 00:36:42,020 Really, it's okay for you two to talk about how your son looks. 521 00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:46,020 I imagine that these pictorials didn't just happen. 522 00:37:02,410 --> 00:37:03,410 You're so handsome. 523 00:37:06,070 --> 00:37:09,750 I like how you two are using your hands to explore each other. 524 00:37:10,030 --> 00:37:11,810 Your mouth a little bit. 525 00:37:12,350 --> 00:37:13,930 Franco's using his mouth a little bit. 526 00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:18,230 He needs to have a little bit more of an oral fixation. 527 00:37:24,510 --> 00:37:25,810 Maybe you should just kind of go. 528 00:37:26,090 --> 00:37:30,010 That whatever you want to experience, he's doing such a beautiful job in 529 00:37:30,010 --> 00:37:32,330 communicating with your eyes and your body. 530 00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:34,830 It's really gorgeous to watch. 531 00:38:20,109 --> 00:38:22,310 It's quiet interaction. 532 00:38:28,730 --> 00:38:29,770 Enjoying yourself? 533 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,280 I am. Yeah. 534 00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:34,420 Are you guys? 535 00:38:35,860 --> 00:38:38,000 I'm having, I mean, you know, my calling. 536 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,500 So I'm having a wonderful time. 537 00:38:41,860 --> 00:38:46,860 It's always nice to have a successful session and seeing two people really 538 00:38:46,860 --> 00:38:48,220 each other and come together. 539 00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:55,060 You know, because they're coming together as a mother and son 540 00:38:55,060 --> 00:38:58,420 or as partners in another way. 541 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:32,730 It looks like I feel great. 542 00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:39,170 I feel more comfortable with you. You got more on our level with. 543 00:39:39,530 --> 00:39:41,310 Clothing -wise. Okay. 544 00:39:41,530 --> 00:39:43,190 Dr. Fiber, would you please? 545 00:39:43,930 --> 00:39:45,630 Would you please be naked? 546 00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:49,870 Yes. I think that I can accommodate that request. 547 00:39:50,370 --> 00:39:51,370 I think that's doable. 548 00:39:54,590 --> 00:39:56,690 I do enjoy facilitating. 549 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,320 Oh my God. 550 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:48,360 That feels so good. 551 00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:16,370 If somebody had told you that your mom would be doing this last week, you 552 00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:18,410 probably would have believed it. 553 00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:20,650 Never. 554 00:41:23,730 --> 00:41:26,710 I never would have imagined I would be doing this. 555 00:41:29,570 --> 00:41:32,990 I'm pretty sure that it's okay for you to explore it. 556 00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:37,790 There will be no negative consequences. 557 00:41:38,050 --> 00:41:40,650 I really think that you can just kind of let go of guilt. 558 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,440 You're not hurting anybody. 559 00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:47,260 In fact, probably quite the opposite. 560 00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:17,500 I was going to ask you, Lily, if there were any specific parts of them that you 561 00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:21,140 wanted to explore, but it seems like you found one. 562 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,580 Yeah. You seem very focused. 563 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,620 It looks like you're really enjoying yourself down there, Lily. 564 00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:34,800 Is that a good place to be? Mm -hmm. 565 00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:40,440 You know what I think? 566 00:42:40,740 --> 00:42:41,669 Mm -hmm. 567 00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:48,150 I think that I want you to look right here, and the church lady 568 00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:55,090 has gone to church, Lily, and all that's left in her place, all those built -up 569 00:42:55,090 --> 00:43:01,990 wants and desires, all that sexual craving, and I want it all 570 00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:08,590 to come out in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 571 00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:34,590 Is that an invitation? 572 00:43:35,390 --> 00:43:36,690 Oh yes. 573 00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:46,170 Oh, yeah. 574 00:43:47,350 --> 00:43:49,870 Oh, yeah. 575 00:43:50,410 --> 00:43:51,410 Oh, 576 00:43:52,310 --> 00:43:53,310 yeah. Oh, 577 00:43:57,630 --> 00:43:58,630 yeah. 578 00:43:58,890 --> 00:43:59,930 Oh, 579 00:44:03,070 --> 00:44:04,070 yeah. 580 00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:38,560 She did just need to get fucked. 581 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,880 Yeah, honestly 582 00:45:13,870 --> 00:45:14,870 That was amazing. 583 00:45:16,570 --> 00:45:17,930 That was fun. 584 00:45:18,690 --> 00:45:21,130 Yeah. Do you want to come over here? 585 00:45:21,490 --> 00:45:22,490 I mean, I don't want to impose. 586 00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:25,010 Okay. That's fine. 587 00:45:25,470 --> 00:45:27,050 Do you want to share a little bit? 588 00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:37,550 So gorgeous. 589 00:45:41,370 --> 00:45:42,730 So steady. 590 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,780 Oh, that's so hot. 591 00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:50,220 Look at that just sticking out. 592 00:45:50,820 --> 00:45:53,880 I'm so enlarged. 593 00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:57,140 Mm -hmm. 594 00:45:58,220 --> 00:45:59,400 Mm -hmm. 595 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,580 Cut it. 596 00:46:05,780 --> 00:46:06,780 Oh, yeah. 597 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,500 There it is. Oh, wow. 598 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,680 Oh my god. 599 00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:18,680 Oh wow. 600 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,920 Oh my god. 601 00:46:22,620 --> 00:46:25,020 You just kind of took that. That's a big dick. 602 00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:27,720 Oh my god. 603 00:46:56,759 --> 00:46:57,759 Thank you. 604 00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:32,280 Thank you. 605 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,800 That was weird. 606 00:51:00,990 --> 00:51:02,090 It's so good. 607 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,000 Thank you for watching. 608 00:51:57,830 --> 00:51:58,990 That's so good. 609 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,820 Oh, it's right there. It's right on the clitoris. Oh my god. 610 00:53:12,220 --> 00:53:14,720 Oh my 611 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:20,060 god! 612 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:26,180 Oh god, yeah. 613 00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:30,980 mm -hmm 614 00:54:02,419 --> 00:54:08,580 You have a 615 00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:13,280 very talented son. Apparently I do. 616 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,220 I'm sorry. 617 00:54:48,779 --> 00:54:51,580 um um 618 00:55:33,070 --> 00:55:34,070 You were curious. 619 00:55:35,110 --> 00:55:38,270 That is a lot of that. Oh, my God. 620 00:55:44,450 --> 00:55:46,110 Nice. Yes. 621 00:55:47,290 --> 00:55:48,290 It's beautiful. 622 00:55:49,230 --> 00:55:50,230 It's beautiful. 623 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,420 Thank you. 624 00:57:10,799 --> 00:57:11,800 Oh God, wow. 625 00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:17,640 Oh my God. 626 00:58:22,510 --> 00:58:24,690 You're ready to pick a question. 627 00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:27,430 Better than I imagined. 628 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,760 I love watching you get what you need. 629 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,100 So fulfilling as a therapist. 630 01:00:05,140 --> 01:00:07,320 Just to see a client get what she needs. 631 01:00:09,930 --> 01:00:10,930 Come into your room. 632 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,760 You're happy? 633 01:01:06,220 --> 01:01:08,160 I'm happy 634 01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:14,100 I'm going to eat this. 635 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:15,880 Oh, yeah. 636 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,200 Oh, yeah. 637 01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:31,640 Oh, that's 638 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,880 right. Oh, that's beautiful. 639 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,420 So gorgeous. 640 01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:21,780 I'll see you together. 641 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,480 Really? I have one more question. Yeah? 642 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,880 Where do you think would be a good place? 643 01:03:39,740 --> 01:03:41,260 Really? Yeah. 644 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,760 Really? That's not what I expected you to say, but okay. 645 01:03:50,730 --> 01:03:51,730 Pretty face. 646 01:03:52,310 --> 01:03:55,030 Yeah, I think I could do that. Yeah, I think you can. 647 01:03:56,310 --> 01:03:57,970 I believe in you. 648 01:04:03,050 --> 01:04:04,490 Give me a hug. 649 01:04:38,330 --> 01:04:40,490 Yeah, I want you to come on my face. 650 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,660 I guess you were right. 651 01:05:42,300 --> 01:05:45,020 I guess you were right. 652 01:05:54,350 --> 01:05:57,530 That you two can do this whenever she needs it. 653 01:05:58,630 --> 01:06:00,430 Whenever you need it. 654 01:06:00,670 --> 01:06:01,770 That sounds good. 655 01:06:03,710 --> 01:06:06,730 It's okay to get what you need if it sounds good for you. 656 01:06:07,010 --> 01:06:08,310 Thank you both. 657 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:28,760 for being here today, for being present and so open to new experiences. 658 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:35,940 I really appreciate it. Thank you. And now 659 01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:37,860 hopefully there's more open communication. 660 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,700 We don't need any more little white lies to get mom into therapy. 661 01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:46,680 Right. I really do hope that this was nice for you and, you know, it kind of 662 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,200 like sinks in over the next week. If you two would like to make another 663 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,660 appointment, you can call myself. 664 01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:56,720 Of course, and she would be happy to make one for you. Okay. 665 01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,700 Definitely. I would love to see you again. I'll hope to see you in one to 666 01:07:00,700 --> 01:07:01,760 weeks. Okay. 667 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,400 If you're open to it. 668 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,420 And, yeah, in the meantime, I will email you all the information that we talked 669 01:07:07,420 --> 01:07:10,760 about. And any questions? 670 01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:12,180 Are we forgetting anything? 671 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,720 I don't believe so. Okay. 672 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,360 We've covered just about everything. 673 01:07:18,660 --> 01:07:20,300 All right. I couldn't think of anything either. 674 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:25,780 There is... a little washroom just down the hall if you would both like to get 675 01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:28,600 cleaned up, which I'm assuming you especially would. 676 01:07:29,020 --> 01:07:31,320 Yeah, I should before I go outside. 677 01:07:31,780 --> 01:07:32,780 Probably. 678 01:07:33,060 --> 01:07:36,480 And, yeah, I think that's it. 679 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,300 Okay, thank you so much. 680 01:07:39,420 --> 01:07:41,800 Thank you. It was nice to meet you, too.